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11-03-2009, 01:00 PM
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Election 2009
In case anyone wants to discuss.
The GOP should take back control of all three major offices in Virginny.
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11-03-2009, 01:01 PM
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I voted.
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11-03-2009, 01:03 PM
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All we got were Constitutional amendments in my precinct. Nothing too serious. Real interested to see how VA, NJ, and McHughes old seat end up. That NY race has been...interesting...
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11-03-2009, 01:12 PM
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To paraphrase Groucho Marx: I don't want to get involved in any political system that would want input from someone like me.
McDonnell should cruise to an easy victory. That NY special has been interesting to say the least. The gay marriage vote in Maine probably the most relevant vote tonight, off year elections for seats tend to tell you nothing about where the voting is moving.
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11-03-2009, 01:16 PM
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Virginia is moving back to the right. The GOP should also pick up seats in the state house. Thanks Barry!
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11-03-2009, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by RedskinsDave
Virginia is moving back to the right. The GOP should also pick up seats in the state house. Thanks Barry!
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I wonder where it is moving. McDonnell didn't run a conservative at all, I don't remember him ever mentioning that he was a republican(and used a lot of blue in his ads). And he's disavowing the Palin robocalls today(along with refusing any real appearances from the national Gop figures from what I've seen). Which is why the Thesis kerfluffle didn't sink him imo(if he was running as a movement conservative, that thesis thing would have destroyed him).
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11-03-2009, 01:27 PM
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I will unenthusiastically vote for Deeds tonight. He's run a rather poor campaign -went entirely too negative. I can't remember the last time that actually worked out for anyone around here. The main issue I cared about was transportation and neither candidate is going to be able to do anything about it anyway.
The NY congressional seat is the most interesting IMO. Granted, the moderate lady was entirely too moderate for Republican tastes, they will be kicking themselves if they lose this seat for the first time in 100 years. Democrats have nothing to lose there.
The referendum on gay rights is not that substantial IMO because it merely represents a measure of where Maine is right now on the matter. The entire population is trending the right way on that issue so it's only a matter of time. Whether that's now, 5 years from now, or 10 years from now is relatively insignificant. Gays having equal rights is imminent.
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11-03-2009, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by RedskinsDave
Virginia is moving back to the right. The GOP should also pick up seats in the state house. Thanks Barry!
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So I suppose you think Virginia rejected Bush in 2000 by electing Warner even though they re-elected Bush 3 years after that.
And Virginia rejected Reagan in 1982 and 1986.
Also Virginia rejected Bush Sr. in 1990.
And each time they were trending Democrat lol.
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11-03-2009, 01:35 PM
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new jersey also bears watching.. how corzine could even be close now is testament to how Democratic the state is.. still, the state is in such poor shape the GOP could elect someone.. after all, christie whitman got elected under similar types of circumstances. Florio ? unbelievably corrupt.. corzine is just incompetent as far as i can tell.. but in Jersey ? you can never tell..lol
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11-03-2009, 01:48 PM
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new jersey also bears watching.. how corzine could even be close now is testament to how Democratic the state is.. still, the state is in such poor shape the GOP could elect someone.. after all, christie whitman got elected under similar types of circumstances. Florio ? unbelievably corrupt.. corzine is just incompetent as far as i can tell.. but in Jersey ? you can never tell..lol
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Christie's problem is the same that Deeds has: neither really explained what they would do as Governor and just attacked their opponent.
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11-03-2009, 03:20 PM
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Christie's problem is the same that Deeds has: neither really explained what they would do as Governor and just attacked their opponent.
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sometimes that is enough, and sometimes it isnt..depends upon how negative the ratings of the opponent are...
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11-03-2009, 03:22 PM
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I wonder where it is moving. McDonnell didn't run a conservative at all, I don't remember him ever mentioning that he was a republican(and used a lot of blue in his ads). And he's disavowing the Palin robocalls today(along with refusing any real appearances from the national Gop figures from what I've seen). Which is why the Thesis kerfluffle didn't sink him imo(if he was running as a movement conservative, that thesis thing would have destroyed him).
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McDonnell had signs all over our polling place this morning...as well as workers outside the door. Deeds had only one sign and no workers. Seems to me Deeds has given up and this one will be a landslide.
BTW - McDonnell campaigned with both Michale Steele and John McCain at different times last month.
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11-03-2009, 03:28 PM
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Christie's problem is the same that Deeds has: neither really explained what they would do as Governor and just attacked their opponent.
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Deeds' solutions seemed to be creating a bunch of committees on day one of his term to "figure out" how to create jobs and transportation...while McDonnell actually had concrete solutions he was prepared to enact immediately.
I dig McDonnell b/c he is for the privatization of the 300+ ABC stores in Virginia..
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11-03-2009, 03:45 PM
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sometimes that is enough, and sometimes it isnt..depends upon how negative the ratings of the opponent are...
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And Christie's are as bad as Corzine's are.
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BTW - McDonnell campaigned with both Michale Steele and John McCain at different times last month.
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Well, thats not the same as having Palin and the presidential front runners going for you.
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11-03-2009, 04:06 PM
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I dig McDonnell b/c he is for the privatization of the 300+ ABC stores in Virginia..
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According to the post, that would amount to a one time gain of $500 million but Virginia would lose $100 million a year as a result.
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